it's kind of self-depreciating Glasgow humour isn't it aye the Neddy Scientist it's kind of tongue in

cheek aye aye aye I was kind of taking the mickey a wee bit and I was like like we're talking about locking the old me away I'm always going to be the way I'm going to be.

I'm always, like, very little wear denims.

I've usually got a trackie on.

Like, that's my kind of roots.

So I'll never really forget my roots and forget what kind of moulded me into being me just now.

But I have got a wee bit older.

yeah agreed I want to finish on a really practical note and I think we will both put stock in the phrase that you can't pour from an empty cup given that you're helping so many people and you're giving to them what are some of the things that you ensure that you do that you're in a good position to serve and support them I've got