What were some of those first gardens then, and did you bring accessibility into those?

One of the first questions I actually ask people, and which is a question that often designers miss, is that question of how long do you intend to stay in this home? Is it your forever home? And then it's the question which is a little bit sort of, f- this can be quite personal, but it's very much about, you know, do you have, uh, a disability of any kind? Uh, is it a physical disability? Is it a, a mental illness? And then just trying to work with the client in a way that makes them feel like they're part of the whole process, and that we're not just focusing on that disability or ability word.

It's more about creating that space that just anybody can come and use, have a wonderful time, as, and as I say, feel safe and secure in.

So my first gardens were actually very much family gardens.

They were those.

They were the ones, you know, they wanted, you know, they'd seen all these wonderful sort of, I don't know, espalier trees.

They wanted a, a log cabin at the end of the garden for their, for the, for the father to have an office space away from the kids, and a big area where they could still play football and that sort of thing.

So I thought it'd be really nice if we could, if you could maybe tell us about some of your favorite gardens or garden features that relate to accessibility, that have either become things that you often put in gardens or have just really stayed with you as something that was a real success and you could build upon.

Tell us about those initiatives.

Yeah, absolutely.

So our first week on the island, we met with a lot of stakeholders, a lot of those passionate people, as you mentioned, who have, you know, put a stake in the ground and want to stay.

You know, Belle Island, in the height of its day in 66, there's about 14,000 people on the island, and today around 2,100.

So one of the things we heard, and yesterday's announcement, I would say this, is the starting line, not the finish line.

So those were the first two announcements of several that we're working on.

But the first thing we heard was that there are 70 high school students on the island of Newfoundland, or on the island of Bell Island, sorry, And 35 are hired, you know, fortunately through Canada Summer Jobs and through the provincial financing.

Just explain what's going to happen there for young people on Bell Island during the summertime.

Um, what work had you been doing with her at that point? Because by that point she'd become, like, the standout batter in the world.

Mm.

Well, ironically, um, when I was working for Surrey, I worked with Tayls.

Um, I remember her coming into the cricket center and sort of almost saying, "I wanna be the best batsman in the world." And, you know, my comment was, "I wanna play center forward for Man United, but I might not be quite good enough." So I spent a lot of times, a lot of years with Tayls doing lots of one-to-one coaching.

She used to come, um, weekly down to Guildford.

Um, and she was kind of the one who put my name forward to, to the ECB to say, "Look, we need to get Laney involved and hopefully he can help." Hers was a lot around, and you would never suggest that Claire was a technician, but she was a real games player.

So we used to do lots of scenarios, lots of field settings, lots of chases, lots of...

That's the most level of dominance you can get to in the women's game anyway.

But why is it that if they have family here in the United States, why couldn't these children at least be temporarily placed in foster care with their immediate family, their relatives in the United States?

You know, pre-Trump, the thought process of our government was – And this is across the board, Republican or Democrat administrations.

But pre-Trump, the thought process was, we don't want these people to be a burden to the taxpayers.

So they were released to their families.

If they came and they requested political asylum and they were found credible and they had somewhere to go, they were released to their families.

Post-Trump, the thought process is, we want to fill beds in for-profit detention facilities.

And One of the very first things he did in February of his first month of the administration is he created a new rule for people that were turning in at the border where it was a six-month mandatory detention.

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