I'm curious kind of where what you're pulling from.

Yeah.

So I actually was privileged to teach and write some courses, but then to teach some executives, it was an executive level, like an EMBA type school.

We're looking at what are the leadership theories and how do you choose? And the operating assumption is you have one, it's either a real mess because you've never articulated, or there's one you're drawing on, even if you don't know where it came from.

Let's surface this so you can be more articulate about it, which actually means you'll be a better communicator.

People will know what you want because you know what you want.

You know where it comes from.

know,

I would imagine if someone's been in a role for 20 years, they're probably like kind of like have a personality of know-it-all oh yeah i know what i'm doing i can i can hand it off to like these three people and i don't really need help do you see that we see

uh we see the i think i can figure it out myself quite often if they're a founder because if they're a founder and they stayed that long and actually grew it into something They kept growing.

They kept learning.

They figured out ways to get things done so that I can figure it out.

I see it faster than other people.

I see further, deeper, wider than my team.

To start unpacking that takes some time and it can be a difficult journey for a person.

Okay.