
Mark Kirby
Supervisory Cybersecurity Advisor for Oklahoma and Arkansas at the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA)
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Aug 10, 2026
The hidden costs of failed building inspections
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Mark KirbyGUEST
Yeah, that was a post-PhD trial, so I took, um, about a hundred and ninety-three, nearly two hundred inspections.

Mark KirbyGUEST
Uh, particularly, we targeted the framing, uh, side of things because there's a thirty-two percent first-time failure rate there.

Mark KirbyGUEST
Let's test it." So we went out and we, and we put a process in place where we used quality gates to ensure before inspections, we used quality gates to ensure that work was complete and evidence was provided so as that we knew if it was remote inspections, then council can look at this and say, "Well, yeah, sure," or, or remote certifiers can look at this and say, "Well, yeah, actually that does pass.

Mark KirbyGUEST
It is to code." Uh, it's a verifiable and traceable process, and that's what's needed.

Susie FergusonHOST
Do you have worries about the increasing ability, then, for self-certification?
Cybersecurity in Healthcare Featuring Mark Kirby Part 2
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Mark KirbyGUEST
So we're basically looking at the front of your house or the front of your hospital and telling you, You know, once a week or maybe or maybe more often, depending.
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Cybersecurity in Healthcare Featuring Mark Kirby Part 1
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3:36Rich RasmussenHOST
So why don't you walk us through what CISA does, the total scope of your responsibilities, so our listeners have a better understanding, and I would argue, a better appreciation of what you guys do.

Mark KirbyGUEST
I mean, I didn't even know it, and I've worked for the government for all these years.

Mark KirbyGUEST
We're still what they consider one of the fairly new organizations in their homeland security.
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