So what about 4-H? You know, Hall of Fame, what does this mean to you?

When I started 4-H, a neighbor of mine was our leader.

Uh, he died very unexpectedly at age 47, so we didn't have him very long.

But, uh, then it evolved from there with other neighbors that stepped up and took his place.

Uh, those same people are gone now, so we just fill in and we're just carrying on, taking their place and helping out our kids and maybe soon our kids' kids.

What about 4-H worked for you? What, what did you like about it? You know, how, how did you use it as a learning tool?

The 4-H were the best friends.

Everybody had things in common, and it just sticks with you.