They're used to hot dogs and chicken nuggets and pizza and that sort of thing.

So I would say that one of the things that is easier today, way easier today than when Mark Huberman was growing up in the 1950s, where there were no salad bars, the products that are available today, healthy, SOS free, largely SOS free, healthy vegan products that you can get.

There's almost no dish that you can't make from pizza to lasagnas to carrot cakes to healthy, that actually tastes good.

And somebody, I think it was Reeves Holmes of Well Your World, said, you know, the one thing you just kind of, when you're going to a friend's house or you're taking a dish, you don't use the V word.

You just bring a good dish.

And a good dish is a good dish if you don't think too big of a deal about it.

Obviously, on the global level, the societal pressures that we have to what are the right foods to eat, what are the right foods for social pleasures and all that.

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