You have to parse through it almost non-emotionally to get the facts.

Yeah, I have a weird...

And it was funny, today I was talking about something, because I'm putting together photos for the book, and I talked to a photographer who I just met, who also was there, but I didn't know him.

But, you know, I'm using some of his photographs, and he was asking me what it was like being there, and he was comparing it to what his experience was.

And I was saying that...

I found that it forces you, and maybe I already had this in me, to be someplace but not be there.

So be physically, my body is there, But I am not there.

But this idea came into your mind at some point, and what was that, how did that happen? Was it happenstance? Was it something on the street? Was it something that, you know, a childhood memory? What is it that gets you thinking, hey, this isn't a book, this is a play?

I mean, the similarity I see with music is like you almost have to train an audience these days

on how to be an audience.

Again, it's sort of like literacy, media literacy, and a lot of people just don't have that.

The word media is a huge umbrella term.

It could mean everything under the sun.

It could mean TikTok videos to a front page story in the New York Times.

That's all media.

And, you know, it's fascinating that this was the country music capital of the united states for a long long time right and how did you how did you get into this did somebody did you know was it john langford who was it that you know said hey man you know