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Mark Goldwein

Mark Goldwein

Marc "Mark" Goldwein, Senior Vice President and Senior Policy Director at the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget (CRFB)

Oct 2, 2026

Open to Debate

Open to Debate

Should We Phase Out Social Security?

Oct 2 · 1h 5m

John Donvan
John DonvanHOST
40:41
So thanks for being us, Mark, uh, with us, Mark, and please tell us, uh, what your question is for our debaters.
Mark Goldwein
Mark GoldweinGUEST
40:47
Yeah.
Mark Goldwein
Mark GoldweinGUEST
40:47
Tha- uh, thank you so much for having me on, and this is a very interesting debate.
Mark Goldwein
Mark GoldweinGUEST
40:51
Um, but in some ways it's very academic because the reality is we're not going to phase out Social Security.
Mark Goldwein
Mark GoldweinGUEST
40:56
Seems very unlikely.
Mark Goldwein
Mark GoldweinGUEST
40:57
And the other reality is we are not gonna keep Social Security how it is.
Mark Goldwein
Mark GoldweinGUEST
41:01
Very unlikely.
John Donvan
John DonvanHOST
45:42
Um, what, what is the prediction on that? When, when do we see that? Unless something changes, when does that happen, Mark?

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