What are some of the things you've seen from a number standpoint of what this is allowing for employers to save?

Yeah, so a lot of employers think that premium is their number one problem when it comes to insurance.

It's not.

It's the result, but it's not the cause.

When we really step back and look at it, health care costs are the cause of why we have high premiums.

But yet there's so many insurance brokers out there who want to bring an insurance product to employers to solve a healthcare problem.

Now, we don't need another insurance product to fix a healthcare problem.

Aside from chiropractors, what are some other specialties that you try to put around a company that they can use as free and clear plan? Yeah, so the short answer is yes.

How did you go about picking out that tune?

We always thought about a cover song but we never did one because we didn't know which one to choose.

this time it was the same it was like a discussion do we want to make a cover because everyone is doing a cover we and we are really um now we want to do a cover but we didn't know a song to cover because we don't want to make it because we wanted cover we want to make a song that means something to us or to some of us and for me it was this song uh this was uh in 2000 i don't know 2003 or four or five something like that um this was like a therapy song for me i had a big heartaches and stuff like that and uh and i really liked some because it rocked it rocks really for um this time this was not very popular that a pop a pop artist makes a song that rocks it's not with much of guitar stuff like that but it rocks in itself it's a it's a rock song and i thought it would be it would be a great thing to to to get that out of the song that that and yeah and i said to thomas uh yeah could we do this one because i think this would be really really a cool a cool um a cool thing and this and he was suddenly like wow yes and and he came up with a riff already and it was a really fast decision after that because it sounded really great and of course um there's always the question if the voice is fits for it and it was perfect so we said we're gonna make that cover the first cover of chakra ever

So, I mean, there's a really big connection between you guys and Crocus and going on like that.

Yeah, I was always a big fan of Chris Von Rohr because he has a good hand on doing things.

He's not rushing stuff and he's always very focused on stuff.

And that's something I've learned a lot from him.

so he was something like uh how do you say that in english a mentor yeah yeah for me and i listened a lot and then he he helped me a lot with my solo project he he helped to make the deal with sonny and stuff like that and i'm really um happy to to had him in this in these times on my side nowadays i don't have much contact but sometimes yeah you don't you don't have to sometimes more sometimes less so but but but it's always fun if we see each other and uh and yes this was great and that thomas thomas knew that um that we are in good contact and work together for some for for different things and uh and he asked him because he was a little bit afraid of my reaction so he asked chris as a yeah as a mediator you know yeah but we didn't we didn't need a mediator because this was like um like uh this was designed for me yeah okay something changed here and and if something changed i think there is yeah there are a lot of things changed with me so um that's time time is working and uh and this is uh it's changing things for to for the goods for the good side or the bad side you know but this was for the good side

But in your opinion, how long should he let this negotiation process play out?

Well, you know, the president has been remarkably patient in a very, very big, uh, decision here.

Uh, he took a very politically unpopular stand to go ahead and, uh, set the objectives in, in this war against Iran with the primary piece being, uh, that Iran not have the capability of having a nuclear weapon.

That hasn't changed, and so that's a fundamental requirement, I think.

I don't think the president's gonna make a bad deal out of this thing, and so, uh, there's a real ...

It's a good question.

When do we go back into full-scale combat operations? I don't know.

Mark, if Iran doesn't hand over its enriched uranium in some sort of a deal here, realistically, how does the US get it?

I'm joined by the writer Mark Fox, who explained the life trials and tribulations of the man.

He had a very straightforward and uncomplicated, uh, political career.

He came from a family of aristocrats, but were impoverished, so money was always a problem for Julius Caesar.

And at this time, well, as indeed in our time, money matters, and he had stood for election to the praetorship and, uh, to various other offices in Rome, had gone and done his military service abroad as he was required to do, as people... where you were, y- in those days, you did a period of holding an office and then you did a, a, a period going out into the empire, into the wider Roman world, governing a province and then coming back.

And he had done all this in a very orthodox way.

There was nothing, there was nothing unusual about his career until he, um, became consul in '59.

Uh, and he was, uh, consul alongside his consular colleague, oppo- was one of his bitter foes, and opposed, uh, more or less everything Caesar wanted to do.

But I, I think one of the interesting things about him is that he wasn't afraid to stand for public office against older, more qualified candidates, and he often beat them.