I was brought up in drywall, but I think if I had an in with plaster, I think I would have gone right down that path.

Yeah, it was – and I enjoyed it.

I actually still enjoy plastering, doing the actual physical work of plastering in a way.

Yeah.

I like the feel of the trowel in my hand.

I like that.

And it's funny because there's – now they come up with – Okay.

and it's smart and there's probably an angle there and it also that bleeds into uh walls and ceilings magazine and that relationship to the industry and some of the industry leaders and some of the bigger fat cats in the industry and so i kind of want to go in that direction