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Mar 10, 2025
Episode 4326: The Fight Of The Singularity
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Ezra just said, E- Ezra just said, "Ideas that develop in Davos." Take your number two pencil out and write that down. Ideas that develop in Davos. This is why I've called it for a decade the party of Davos. One idea that occurred, I think, what, two years ago? They brought, uh, they brought a- artificial intelligence out to the commercial world and it's been a feeding frenzy ever since of capital going into it, and once capital, as I told you, goes into artificial intelligence, you're not gonna control it 'cause now it's you've got the worst elements of greed and avarice and power aligned with a technology that could be amazing for Americans or for citizens of folks throughout the world, but it also could lead to incredible danger and potentially destruction because I think history shows us every advanced technology that comes on the scene initially g- (laughs) gets used for military purposes, (laughs) right? Maybe, maybe it's not there for peace and prosperity. Uh, Mark Jevtovik, the bomb thrower, you wrote an article, something we're very focused on, Mark, all the time, and by the way, I've got two Canadians on War Room in the same day. God bless you. Um, what, one thing we're focusing on, this is why Joe Allen's been our editor this, o- over, on, uh, about the singularity for years, is our focus on this concept called the singularity. You kind of rattled me 'cause you told me over the weekend, you said, "Hey, Steve, I don't know what you're talking about." I follow this very closely and I'm telling you, the singularity's already here as far as artificial intelligence goes. So tell people what the singularity is, why it's a big deal, and why your theory of the case is that we're already there.
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24:08Mark E. JeftovicGUEST
Hey Steve, great to be back. Um, you know, the singularity has different definitions for different people. I look at the Ray Kurzweil definition of it, which is almost like a technological rapture, like, moment when sort of, you know, Skynet in the Terminator movie, like everything switches on and everything changes for humanity in that instant. But what I've been realizing lately, uh, comes on the heels of another piece I wrote about, um-... the speed of change and the phenomena of future shock, you know, from the old Alvin Toffler book, that future shock was accelerating and causing mass formation psychosis (laughs) throughout humanity. And part of that article I, I said that in effect the singularity has already happened because what is happening now is we created code that is now creating code. So now the software is programming software and, in my mind, that is a kind of Rubicon moment. We may not have gone completely vertical in, in terms of the graph where, um, hyper-intelligent, self-aware technology has infused all aspects of humanity. What I'm saying is, we've at least crossed this event horizon where, uh, predictability has kind of gone out the window and the mantle of technology is no longer, or is in the process of no longer being driven by humans. It's gonna be increasingly driven by technology, so the code is gonna start coding more code than humans can generate.
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I, I'm, I'm gonna commit. We're gonna do a debate and have these two brilliant guys on in some, some sort of format. They can give some give-and-take. I can't do it this morning, though. But Marc, the question I got to you before we punch out this morning of this topic is, have we already lost the ability of a society, a culture, a political process, to control what you see right now is the hurtling advances in artificial intelligence, sir?
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35:24Mark E. JeftovicGUEST
That's, that's a really tough question. I would love to be able to say that we can put the genie back in the bottle and we can get back out in front of this thing. A mantra of mine has long been that we live in a largely out of control world. And, you know, the problem with technocracy is, is it's a desire or an attempt to control the uncontrollable. Now we add AI and self-generating code and this infinitely... or maybe not infinitely, uh, according to Joe, but, like, this accelerating acceleration of technology, uh, it's even more out of control. It's out of control squared. And I don't know if there is an ability to put that back in the, in the, you know, the genie back in the bottle or to get back out in front of it. Um, I've always said humanity's superpower was its hyper-adaptability, and that may be the only thing we get to rely on going forward. And I don't mean putting chips in our head so we can keep up with the code faster. I mean just somehow grounding ourselves in the real world so that we can keep up with this thing that is spinning out of control in front of our very eyes.