So how influential was he actually growing up and how did you navigate the early years having such a bad loss so young? So my dad,

so basically...

when I was six or seven, so my dad was a road service contractor, right? Wasn't a gypsy, but he was a road service contractor, right? And he's owned businesses before I was born.

So my dad's got a family previously and cut a long story short, that place had rolled down, my sisters moved to America.

He lost them for 25 years and eventually came back, luckily before he died.

But then before he died, sorry, when I was eight, spoke to him and he came in one night he's like just so I know I'm going back myself because the business just before I was born it folded he'd done a big more away job done a big job it was too big for him didn't want to do it he'd done it and they didn't pay him in the right time so when I was eight he came in the door and he said just so I know I'm going more again my mum's sitting doing dinner table mum's like do you mean you're going your own again? She went, I've given them 12 years.

I shouldn't have done it.

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