Can you elaborate our ambitions, our collective ambitions in this area, and tell us why it's so important?

Yeah.

A-and I can do that, Marcus, but I, I think maybe it's useful maybe to take one step back, right? So I talk about the climate crisis, and of course, I'm sure many of your listeners don't need to be told, right, that the climate is changing and that it's having these negative consequences on health and economy in Africa, because I'm sure many of your listeners are experiencing that and seeing it firsthand.

Much of the crisis is a consequence of the buildup of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, beginning with the Industrial Revolution in the early 19th century.

And it is fair to say that the vast majority of that carbon dioxide that has built up in the atmosphere is attributable to Europe, Northern Europe, the United States and North America, and more recently, the rapid economic development in China.

And so when I spend time on the continent, I often am told Right? That many Africans feel that they've been victimized by climate change, but not really have played a large role in contributing to it.

It's really the industrial powers, the Western industrial powers that have made the mess, and that many people feel that it really is first and foremost the obligation of the Western economies now to deal with the problem.

I wanted to get your perspective on what you see as the future of this sector, which is a significant contributor to emissions, and wanted really to get a perspective based on what you've observed in other regions of the world and what you think can be appropriate policy to enable Africa's major airlines to be less reliant on the fossil fuels that s- they are so dependent on today, given all the dynamics and volatility in prices that we refer, referred to.