I'd like to, first of all, let you do your own intro and bio, and then I'll ask you some questions and we'll get going.

Mark Baker, Oh okay well thanks Julie yeah my name is mark Baker i'm President and founder of the soft lights foundation.

Mark Baker, I started this well I started I got involved in this issue of led lights about a decade ago when they first started coming out in high power mode and to me they were debilitating.

And I began researching and trying to figure out what is so wrong with this LED lights.

So originally, I had a website, which we still have a softlights.org. And then I was encouraged to make the bit more than that.

So we converted to a nonprofit.

So we are registered 501c3, registered in Oregon, where I used to live.

And it does feel like this point of how do we survive and combat this?

What led you to take on this whole project?

Well, a couple of reasons.

One is that there was a very highly interested community of people who lived through those times, and I knew that the blog post would be read and appreciated and understood.

But I had a bigger purpose, I think, because, you know, the 90s print media was pre-internet and on paper.

And that community, that ecosystem is dying.

It's very hard to find any information about these publications on the internet.

I mean, think about it.

Beyond the big two newspapers, which titles for you were the most notable?

What led you to take on this whole project?

Well, a couple of reasons.

One is that there was a very highly interested community of people who lived through those times, and I knew that the blog post would be read and appreciated and understood.

But I had a bigger purpose, I think, because, you know, the 90s print media was pre-internet and on paper.

And that community, that ecosystem is dying.

It's very hard to find any information about these publications on the internet.

I mean, think about it.

Beyond the big two newspapers, which titles for you were the most notable?

Hmm

... a lot of secular things that tested it and-- But it was all by, the main point, it was all based on the first couple of, uh, s- tapes, seasons of the, or the first season, the couple of tapes, uh, in Season 1 about just telepathy.

Is it true or not? It's, but that, that's a, that's misleading because the bigger picture happens in, uh, tape three, four, five, and beyond, where The Hill comes in and the necromancing and all that.

So The Hill is a place where they find all these kids, they just travel.

They just leave their bodies at will.

It's called out-of-body, uh, traveling, uh, astral projection.

And there's no explanation in the telepathy tapes how this happens, or none of these Christians that talk about it really explain how these kids, these kids are randomly just leaving their bodies and zapping over to this place in the mystical realm.

Wow

25 years ago, Mark Baker arrived at South Yarrow Soccer Club for the first time.

Summer 2000 and it was pre-season training so a friend who had played at the club and I were talking and he said let's go and play outdoor football again.

So I actually worked across the road and never knew they were here.

So when he told me to meet him here, I was like, wow, I could have been here a lot longer, but it is what it is.

Yeah, I was a bit nervous because I hadn't played outdoor for a few years and there was a lot of running because that's what

Mark didn't know anyone there that first night, except the friend who brought him, and then someone walked over.

It would have been one of my good friends.

His name's Farrell.

So have there been any aha moments that you've had? I know we're already, we really are at the beginning of the second day as we're recording this and there weren't many presentations already, but any aha moments or any aha conversations you've had with people while you're here?

One of the things, I was at MedAxium in the spring, and one of the big things has been artificial intelligence.

That's been one of the big ones.

But also listening to the speakers when it comes to infection control, and of course you speaking about getting accredited in our inspections, was that...

One of the aha moments was that we did a lot of things right.

We went out, found the answers.

And then the other aha moments is that there were little things that we missed or that we could be doing better.

But any of the other benefits here that you find you're going to be really taking advantage of?

If you say yes to many of these things, then this is probably a struggle, an idol even, right? or what activities have you been taking part in that might fuel your anxiety? And so I really found all of those assessments very helpful and for people to pinpoint exactly where their thinking is faulty.

Yeah, yeah.

And so there's also some questions we can ask ourselves and other people if we're helping other people.

So when, as an example, when we're experiencing depression, to ask ourselves, because this is critical, that depression, again, is not just something that happens, it's connected to hopelessness.

So ask yourself, or another person, where in my life do I see something as hopeless? And it sounds a little weird at first, and I ask this of people, and a lot of times they protest right away, like, what, no, I don't, oh yeah.

Yeah, my marriage.

Or, oh, it's my work.

It is to increasingly believe these truths proactively and to consistently rely on and call them to mind certain When necessary, can you speak to the role of calling to mind scripture in addressing our mental health?

But I would say one of the things that, that this proves is do, is it better to have industry standards versus government regulations? Is this proving that governments can't be trusted and you need industry to be able to regulate itself?

It's shocking, but I've heard same thing in the United States.

So this, this idea, you know, before would be that like in the United States, we have a federal government and we have a state government and then you have local governments and And the supreme agency is the federal.

So if they make a law, everybody has to follow that.

But there's this pull with states' rights.

Okay, well, maybe the federal government shouldn't be too heavy-handed, so we'll let the states make their own rules.

And then, well, the states are maybe heavy-handed, so we let the cities make their own.

Oh, yeah,

Mark, my next question is, how is growing in spiritual discernment essential to one's mental health?

Yeah, you know, discernment, what is discernment? It's separating.

It has the idea of you're judging between two different things.

And in Scripture, there's a Greek word krino, which means judge, or diakrino, which is often translated discernment, means to judge between.

It's kind of like a diagnosis.

across or between knowledge.

So it's not a sprained ankle, it's a broken ankle.

Did you have any thoughts about that?

Oh, yeah, absolutely, yeah.

So, I mean, a lot of people don't realize that that inpatient rehab unit is within the hospital.

So it's a place where you can get intensive therapy.

And one of the best things about it is if you need things that – Like lab work, if you need an MRI or a CAT scan or anything like that, you need a neurology consult, cardiology consult, everything's within the house of the hospital there.

So we can do comprehensive care of patients right there within the hospital.

Now, Mark, I understand you made a

house called No Water.

Yeah.

Do I have this timeline? Are these facts the correct facts here?

Yeah.

It's pretty extensive.

You, you've uncovered quite a bit, and it's fascinating.

You are correct about Musco Lighting.

So this is a pure light pollution project.

It's not utility lighting.

Like here, for instance, we have the Ben Franklin, which is just pillars of, you know, depending on the day, green-colored lights up into the sky, right?

Mm-hmm.

And, and, and here, the, let me pause and kind of touch on a bigger subject that is foundational.

It's very simple in some ways, but God designed us to feel unwanted feelings.

And that was common sense for, for thousands of years.

But in the last few years, we kinda got away from that.

'Cause we kinda think, "Oh, no, that's just something that's happening to me," or, "That's a disease.

That's a malfunction," or whatever.

Could you speak to that point about trusting God with those things that we can't control?

Mm-hmm.

You know, I can switch over to a blower that's six feet, but right now, that's the appropriate equipment for this heavy-duty work because the snow is so compact and heavy.

And when you're using a skid steer and you're bringing the snow out, it makes a mess on the road.

But of course, as a good operator, you know when you're done you're gonna clean that road up neat and tidy and, you know, any snow that might have fallen in a neighbor's driveway, you're gonna go over, you're gonna clean that up and make it better than you found it.

But unfortunately, sometimes people see you there, and they're like, they come out and they approach the tractor, and you can see they're ready f- they're ready for a fight.

And, uh, first of all, just approaching heavy equipment is just a big no-no.

Just stay as far away as possible.

What are some of the things you've seen?

What happened, uh, to you with regards to LED lighting?

Oh gosh, yes.

I'm not involved with the LED lighting because I chose it.

It was something that, uh, happened to me, and I'm happy to share my story with your listeners.

Um, it was very dramatic, um, or traumatic, I should say.

So I was a, a middle school math teacher in Silicon Valley, California.

And around two thousand and fifteen at the end, two thousand and sixteen, that's when I started to notice LED lights coming out.

Must be.