Yeah.

it really was organic and everything how everything happened um we so we we've got our fifth child and we tried to travel one time and it was horrible so we made a family rule that we would never travel further in hours than our youngest child well he's two So we actually changed that rule because Laura had some family members who were graduating in Chicago.

So we were like, let's go ahead and bite the bullet here.

So we were heading up to Lake Michigan in June.

And Laura's sitting between the two youngest in the middle row of our expedition.

And my 15-year-old, Pace, is sitting right next to me.

And I'm on the interstate.

So like, that's also kind of exciting.