So other than the odd work schedule, is there any other cost to a person for this job, you would say?

For sure.

Because the day itself does follow some patterns, even though you are right, no two days are completely alike.

However, when you come in in the morning, we know you're going to check your rig out.

So if I'm an ambulance, I'm checking, the driver's checking out the fluids and the coolants.

Does it start? Are all the light bulbs flashing? Yeah.

writing up any mechanical issues, the person in the back of the ambulance with the patient is going through the medical bag, checking the dates on all the supplies, checking the levels of fluids, checking the levels of oxygen, Oxygen in all the various bottles, even if the rig was used the day before, you still got to check that stuff every day because you never know.

on the job?

So how does that apply in the fire station? out on the scene of an emergency, and how can people apply that who are listening to this that are not in fire or any type of emergency services?

It's hard to do.

I have found out it's equally hard in other workplaces, not just the fire service.

In the fire service, it's very tempting when you're an officer.

You've got all these eager senior people that want to be officers.

If I wanted, I could delegate almost all of my tasks to them because they want to learn how to do them.

They're eager workers.

But it was a good learning lesson for me.

Yeah,

I'd love that point because you're one, you want the teams prepared because there could be a medical patient's health or safety on the line.

There could be our safety on the line if we're out of fire or a car extrication.

So I want everybody to perform highly because the goal is to be able to go home at the end of the day.

For me, those trainings are the way to get that.

But I found some of the best leadership examples I had were from the bosses who would say, here's this scenario that we're going to tabletop.

What are your guys' thoughts? And then somebody would say this, you know, that's a really good point.

So when you look at that situation, the command versus the inspiring piece, what's that differentiation that you see when somebody really taps into really the inspirational piece over commanding?

So what is something you think those people tend to misunderstand about leadership when it comes to emergency response environments?

That's a good point that you made.

And I would agree with the former military officer you're talking about that.

Yes, in being a first responder, a lot of the decisions on the scene do have a person's at least health or well-being on the line.

Not every call is life or death, but But just being paramedics on routine medical calls, if we don't properly assess that patient and get them to the proper emergency room in our district to handle their needs, things can get worse later.

So we are mitigating a lot of medical scenes through that really good paramedical care and paramedicine and even just the leadership.

So yes, the lives are on the line for sure.

Just tell us what it's like being in a firehouse, working with people, basically trusting them with your life, if you will.