Let's talk about it.

Exactly.

And so tantra teaches very specific practices to actually allow men to get there, because even the idea of that is very foreign to most men.

They're like, "No way." But the tantra teaches through breath and pelvic contractions to learn to separate ejaculation from an orgasm, and that allows men to experience way more pleasure.

Like, they can be multi-orgasmic just like women.

It means that they can ride waves of pleasure in any, either be it penetrative or non-penetrative experience, just like women, and finally get to a deeper state of bliss.

And so the practice when we devote, be it the male partner, female partner, anyone, devote themselves to a male partner, in that process, it is much easier for men to start actually learning to separate orgasm because they can re- relax.

Yeah, no, 'cause you're, you're not there yet, right?