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Marissa Meyer

Marissa Meyer

American novelist

Nov 5, 2026

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fundamental error before her trial.
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In the early stages of the case, Lori was represented by a lawyer named Mark Means, and that lawyer had also represented Lori's husband, Chad.
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So in December of 2021, the trial judge removed Mark Means from Lori's case, saying his representation could be a conflict of interest.
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Lori did not get a say in that decision.
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At the time, she was classified as mentally incompetent to participate in the proceedings.
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Lori's attorneys argued that the judge's actions violated Lori's constitutional right to choose her own lawyer.
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It
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Why are we just now seeing an arrest, Marissa?
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Did he have anything to say to them? Well,
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Ashley's family, they had sat through days of testimony when Caleb's lover, Aaliyah Botner, had read text after text message that Caleb had sent her.
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in which he said he hated his wife, Ashley.
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He called her names and expressed a desire to kill her.
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So that must have been so heart-wrenching for them.
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And in his statement in court, Caleb, he apologized to them for his behavior and the things that he'd said about Ashley.
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What did they say? I know they focused a lot on the kids.
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Yeah, their biggest focus was on Caleb and Ashley's daughters, Alyssa and Ava.
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How did you notice that he was into the DMs already?
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So I had gone to, um, like, a pregame for a Halloween party, and the first girl that I'm talking to at the first party that I'm at after this crazy experience has DMs from him.
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And I'm like, okay, this is, one, the universe looking out, and it's, two, that's just surely how many girls he's hitting up.
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Had the show been out, like, how did she know you were with him? I was just talking to her about, you know, I was, you know, just got off the show and blah, blah, blah, and she's like, "Wait, what's his last name?" And I'm like, "Oh, fuck.
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Here we go." So she, like, pulls up the DMs.
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She said, "Hey, girly." Yes.
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She said, "Hey, girly." She like, "Let me screenshot all the messages and, like, just blow it up." Yeah.

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Just from your perspective, what, give us the, what was that whole experience like?
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Yep, that's fine.
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Hello everyone.
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I am sharing today on God the Creator.
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And when I was so very excited about sharing on this name, I didn't quite consider the ramifications of the size of the name.
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And so I've been, it's been a really busy week leading up, you know, we had Voice of the Lord and work has been pretty crazy.
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So it's been sort of, I haven't had enough time to put into this big name.

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