What's a better goal, then?

A better goal would be to, again, get very clear on, okay, ideally what do you want? And then what we do is that we'll s- identify those seasons where we're investing more heavily in one thing versus another thing, as well as checking in regularly.

So that's something like, let's say for example, you say that family is very important to you.

But even that in itself can be very different from one person versus another.

One person would say, "Okay, well, that means that I wanna drop my kids off at school every day." That's a non-negotiable for them that really brings them joy, that they wanna show up for their kids.

Whereas someone else says, "Yes, family is important for me, but actually I really prioritize that deep work block that I have in the morning, that I'd rather invest in my work during that time and then show up for my family in the evening, where then I could be fully proud, close the door of what I did in my work life to then show up professionally." And there's different ways that you can express that value to you.

I mean, some people say, "I have a great relationship with my mom," and they only see them once a month.

Why do relationships play such a critical role in leadership?