So can you tell us more about the origin of this and why it's just so central to memoirists that they take a moment to, you know, let that land and think about

it? Well, I think it's first, I can sort of backtrack it from the success the writers that have worked with me have had.

I've got 180 books on my shelf of people who have published working with me.

And I'm really proud of those books.

Big books, small books, books published by you at She Writes Press, books published by the Big Four, big books that are self-published, books that are indie published.

And I think that when people understand that we cannot relate to the details, the Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday version of your life, but that you actually know something that I wanna know.

I wanna know how you survived the death of three of your children.

So what's the through line for you in terms of what draws you into a subject that you're going to write about?