That's hard, eh? Yeah.

I think he's, um, definitely, as I say, got better direction, and he's, um, I think he's stepping up a bit more.

Like, before he was afraid to say things to the fellas, and whereas he's actually, "I actually need you to do this and perform-

Yep

... like, as he said, like, he stayed up to 1:30 in the morning 'cause it'd been a shit week with people off work and all the rest of it, so he'd been filling in gaps.

And then he did that quote, and he says, "And I didn't even hardly get the words out." And the guy goes, "Yep." And he goes, "That's why you do it." And that's like clicking your heels out the door, and he's ringing me on the phone and-