Is it possible to slow down and enjoy a bit of golf?

So I spoke to John Leamy about this afterwards, the general manager, and he was saying that they're actually starting to look at this and they're facilitating more nine hole rounds.

So, you know, for me, nine holes, two, two and a half hours, that seems a lot better.

I could get out, you know, I think in the summertime they'll tee off from daylight.

So it could be half six, seven.

You could get your nine holes in.

And even if you're working in a space like of a client, if I'm working with somebody and, you know, two, three hours is a feasible amount of a day to give away to something.

They became your life and soul, didn't you, during the worst time of your life?

So I can't ask you the question about how did a career at sea ever enter your mind? Because having read your book, I realise it didn't enter your mind.

You kind of stumbled into it ever so slightly.

Yeah, yeah, that's fair.

I actually now live in the parish of Borlanduela and actually this is my first year stepping back into the balance of more years in tip than I had in cork.

So I...

Very much split between the rebel county and the premier county.

So yeah, so that's a very small world.

It's beautifully written, that particular chapter, but it is equally heartbreaking to read.

knew at

that stage? We knew that we were four weeks pregnant.

Nobody else did.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

My granny definitely did.

So, immaculate conception.

So, yeah, so then like, you know, like young naive parents, we went through and Professor Keelan O'Donoghue was our consultant in CMH and we were in with her for the anomaly scan.

Did you have hope that he was going to beat all the odds?

Yeah.

So she was referring us to Dublin to see a pediatric cardiologist.

So we came out of her office that day, and we were shell-shocked but not worried, because I knew other people whose babies had had heart problems and surgeries, and it was like, it's, "Look, we'll cope.

Be fine." So we went on with normal life, and then we went up to Dublin to the Coombe, and we met a pediatric cardiologist and a team up there a week later.

Think I was about 23 weeks pregnant, so I was nearly six months.

And I just remember that room was tiny.

Like, that's my memory.

Mm.

Mm

...

the last time I met you was 14 years ago, Miriam, and it's actually a real circle to be here with you this morning.

And when I met you 14 years ago, I, I was dressed up.

I had the hair and makeup done.

I looked fantastic, but actually, I was in a heap, because we had lost our little on, our little baby boy, Ciaran.

So myself and John, um, found out when we were six months pregnant with our first baby, just after we got married, so we were a newly married couple, that unfortunately, Ciaran had, um, a fatal fetal abnormality, a really complicated congenital heart defect.

Mm.