I'm asking interviewees for a story about a time in their clinical practice that they feel they failed and what they learned.

Awesome.

Thank you so much.

And it's a pleasure to be here.

I mean, I'm, I'm a great fan of your work and, uh, in this work on the podcast, um, listening, and it's just a great opportunity to share as well.

I've been thinking about that question.

Um, and just also wanted to notice that English is my second language.

yeah and just ways that whenever i have to talk about this i do need to qualify what i'm saying in the same ways that you did which is i don't want to generalize and there are people that are served by this and i don't want to like kind of like totally dismiss the system but also gosh system is failing a lot of people