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Thanks, Bernie.

Nice to be here with everybody.

This is kind of a beginner question, and I've been wanting to ask you for a really long time about it, and it feels like maybe right now is a good time because of what you just talked about.

I think...

I, you know, for a long time, I've been kind of trying to work my way through the schema of like, don't think, you know, that like the thoughts are distracting and that's, it's kind of like let go of them and come back to the breath.

And I often wrestle with kind of what you were just talking about which is that sometimes you have this like cascade of experiences when you're sitting there and there's like suddenly you're identifying the feelings and then you're identifying the feelings around the feelings and then that's kind of a bit of a project that goes on um and i i'm curious if you could just talk a little bit about the relationship between almost sort of the larger like the carapace around the carapace where you're like are you giving yourself permission to experience the thing or even inviting it versus resisting the process of even like having this kind of emotional sensation because i think sometimes i'll go through a sit in it and i'm like wow i really like learned a lot about myself that sitting like i'm i'm obviously really fixated on this thing because it kept coming up and then I feel like you often say like, it's okay if that's just what's coming up for you in this session.

Okay.