Is there anything that you've noticed, either in your own spiritual life or in the spiritual lives of people with whom you work, that has shifted in these last 35 years since you wrote that book?

Well, I would say becoming ever more inclusive.

Inclusive in understanding not just of facts or doctrine or anything like that, but understanding of life itself and how vast and encompassing it is.

Understanding the unity in all of life.

Understanding what Creation teaches us about ourselves if we're willing to listen.

I mean, there is so, there are so many books that are not words on paper that we can learn from and expand our understanding and grow with and include within our daily lifestyles.

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Can you share some of the challenges that you've experienced in teaching or in working with the Enneagram, Marie?