... could begin to experience it as an instrument of transformation?

Oh, that's such a great question.

So being trained, uh, classically...

So when I was, when I was around 13, I knew I wanted to study classical voice as a base foundation.

I was really into the pop world and very much wanted to be a pop singer.

[laughs] So I knew that if I wanted that, that I had to train classically to understand the basics so I could be the best pop singer that I wanted to be, that was possible.

So I quickly turned to Italy.

All right, let's take it away.