
Mari Simpson
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Sep 1, 2026
Why Student-Centered Change Fails- And How to Make it Stick
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Mari SimpsonGUEST
And then the new ones that I was hiring, I was very clear that I want creative go-getters that's like me, that can execute and that we are turning a school around.

Mari SimpsonGUEST
They are part of a three-year school improvement and school transformation, not just improvement, school transformation.

Mari SimpsonGUEST
So, of course, in the beginning, I had a lot of pushback, like, you know, Here and there, certain nationalities more than other.
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30:48Kyle WagnerHOST
But is that something that you track, you know, energy, enthusiasm, positivity? What is worth tracking in terms of data when you're looking for school improvement, I guess?