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So we have been burning since 2012 on our reservation with zero escapes.

Our reservation is, uh, the Yurok Reservation is in far Northern California along the Klamath River, a mile on each side of the river, and our ancestral territory is much bigger than that.

Little over 100 years ago, our native people were severely punished, in fact, shot, if they were seen trying to take care of the land with fire.

And then in later years, they made a law to where you can be imprisoned for many, many years, which still exists to this day.

As a consequence of that, our land is really, really, really overgrown with trees and brush.

The brush is so thick that you can't see through it, you can't walk through it.

I know you've been up all night at a ceremony, [laughs] so thank you for humoring our questions, but how do you, how do you create these fire breaks where, those lines where the fire won't cross?