So tell us about that.

Yeah.

So, well, what happened was I was working for a fair trade company and And I lost, I was working there long term as a freelance, but long, long term.

And I lost the work very suddenly and very shockingly.

And it really quite broke my heart.

And I really had to go back to basics.

And I thought, what do I really, really want to do? How old would I have been? Maybe, let's say in my 40s.

Yeah.