The goal of conservation isn't to freeze everything exactly where it is now.

If that was the goal, we'd miss that train a long time ago.

I mean, natural systems do change and evolve, but if the environment changes faster than those adaptive capacities of the natural system, the natural system collapses.

And again, part of the entire sort of provisional system that God created us in this planet has to do with functions of a lot of that biodiversity that Bob was describing, like, yeah, it goes along okay for a little while.

And that's part of this function that we understand that biodiversity has, it provides some buffer.

in these planetary systems that support all sorts of life that give us oxygen to breathe and, you know, maintain clean water systems and, and our atmosphere.

I mean, our atmosphere is one of those amazing gifts and things about our planet that God created that enables any of us deliver any of the systems that we know.

But it is actually a science-based hopeful solution that, that we can implement.

for sure um

Your caller was correct the other day when he said about closing Northern Pulp and the work that's being done on Boat Harbour.

I was actually the minister that did the environmental assessment on Boat, on Northern Pulp.

And I'm really, you know, I think what I need to bring forward is that at that time, that was a very, very important decision.

And I didn't hear a word from the Premier's office.

It was totally left to the scientists in my department which way that would go and making a decision in my office about which way that would go.

And I had to give Stephen McNeil so much credit at that time.

Very quickly, as a former Minister of Environment, Margaret, why didn't your government pursue things like gas extraction and uranium extraction?