Yeah,

yeah, yeah.

So we had this idea for what ended up becoming Rockwater.

Yeah, yeah.

And it was this idea that wouldn't it be cool for kids that are kind of like, again, this is going to the, I don't want to be a minister, but I want to help people.

Yeah.

How old were you at this point? 27.

And with one and two, web one and web two, how did that tumble over?