pleasure.

Never had really heard of it or thought maybe if I'd seen like, you know, shows on TV, it was like something that was really unattainable for the average person.

You had to be like super wealthy or something like that.

And I quickly came to realize that it is accessible to a lot more people and that women in particular get very little of the money.

The founders get very little of the money that is out there or less than 2%.

And so I thought, huh, this is so interesting.

I was fascinated to learn that angel investing is really when people invest in a private company using their own money.

What's the journey

Now, when you did the second book, you self-published, did you actually do it yourself or did you have a company that helped you along the way? Or did you find individuals like a graphic designer for the cover and someone else for the formatting? What exactly did you do?

Yeah, so I did a little bit of a mixture.

I used Publish again to distribute and they helped me with the cover.

And then I also found some copy editors, line editors.

I don't think I realized how many editors are really valued.

First of all, how valuable editors are because they are extremely valuable.

But then how many types of editing there are.

What was the plan? How did you sell the 3,200 books? How did you do that promotion?

Can you talk more about what you're seeing right now in the landscape for raising capital and perhaps some other alternatives that our founders and members can be thinking about during this time?

Yeah, and not to get too into the weeds, but let's think about 2020 and 2021.

Even though we were in the middle of a pandemic, there was a lot of capital flowing.

There were exits happening.

Companies were going public.

I know personally, finally, after eight years, I had an exit where I got money back.

I was dancing the jig.

There was a third option you were sharing.

Can you walk us through that?

So the Angel Capital Association has a lot of information and data.

So I encourage everybody to go to their website, angelcapitalassociation.org.

But pretty much the general consensus is that you really don't want to use more than about 5% of your investable assets in order to invest in a risky asset class like angel investing.

And angel investing is considered an alternative asset.

And so an alternative asset can be a lot of different things.

It could be art or wine or whatever.

What made you write this book that just came out?