Okay.

Up-armored vehicles at that time, but it still wasn't enough to go around.

And then the VCs we would take, we would take a light-skinned vehicle and we would just rotate that throughout the VCs.

And so that next, that day was my time to give my up-armored to Condi and Condi, we would have swapped vehicles.

But we were on that, you know, the night out with Captain Wyler at the time.

He was with us.

And, you know, on the way back, heading back

When you look back on this specific time, Number one, what do you tell people or if you tell them anything at all? And number two, what does this particular deployment mean to you and these folks?

Like what was their messaging that you did in the States or was that something that you helped push when you were actually in country?

Oh, well, um, I mean, obviously, once we were in country and that happened, I mean, there was really no need to kind of push that narrative because it was there.

Like, you know that you had no other choice, but you locked in, right? So I would always tell, I mean, I think I've...

It was probably, this is probably the most frequent story that I've ever told or that I tell when I actually do talk about Romani is that whole incident and how I was not mentally prepared in that moment for that, you know, for that firefight.

And in my answer to them, I was like, look, you just, I don't care, you know, When anyone says to you, it is what we do is inherently dangerous at all times.

Right.

And when you're in a foreign country and you know that you know that there's, there are people out there that are going to want to kill you.

I don't remember the cross street you were at specifically.