Thoughts on,

um, I feel like I've done a lot of stuff.

Um, everything from, you know, primary teachers, um, did a lot of things with the, the young men's program at the word level and at the stake level.

Um, actually when we first moved here, um, I'd been out of school for, uh, just a year and, and, It was actually, yeah, it was when we first moved here.

I'd been a church member for just a bit more than a year.

And I got called to be a counselor in the stake at Men's Presidency, which to me was like, what is this all about? And it was like, why did he call me in to do this? I had like no background in this.

And and was brand new to the church and just ended up being in Young Men's for a lot of my time in different places.

a fairly big hospital.