Now you've got to cover, you've got to look at the entire United States as far as how your staff is finding players.

Yeah, and, you know, I was...

You know, it goes back a few years when I was still playing.

I want to say it was in COVID times.

I was, I'd sat down and thought about what it was, you know, as much of us, as many of us did during COVID times, just thought about my life and what direction it's going and where it's going to go afterwards.

And teaching and education was always something that I I hadn't fully immersed myself in in terms of an occupation or a career after rugby, but it ultimately turned out that it was probably something that I wanted to explore.

And with that, I thought coaching was an absolutely clear avenue to do those two exact things.

We can get better.

So when you're in high school, where are you at with what's after high school? Are you thinking about pro rugby? Are you a kind of star? Are you a battler, as you say?

Mm.

No, not, not at all.

Um, from, you know, like, from our school alone, we had no representatives from a provincial standpoint where they have this, um, world famous week of, um, provincial teams that come together.

It's called Craven Week, where you have the best of your region play against everyone.

So it's a selects, but on a national level.

Um, and we had no one in our group, and there was no one even Really that close either.

John Dobson.