So to kinda kick it off, would you mind telling me a little bit about your mental health journey? So from, like, the lows that kinda led to where you wanted to make a change and to where you are now.

Yeah, sure.

And like I tell people all the time, like, if you go back and you're able to look at my, my childhood and my teenage years, there's probably not one thing that s- could say to you like, "Oh yeah, that's the thing that, that we can, we can pinpoint is the reason why, you know, Mark felt the way he did." I, I mean, I grew up in a, a, a two-parent household.

I'm a, a part of a set of twins, me and my brother Michael.

I had a older sister, grew up in the suburbs, you know, [chuckles] went to a nice school.

Everything, you know, everything on the outside looking in was, was, was fine.

But you know, there, there were plenty of times in my, my younger life, either as a child or a teenager where, um, I compared myself a lot to my brother.

Um, and how, how have you seen the correlation between, like, exercise and mental health in your experience?

So how has fatherhood changed your perspective on emotional vulnerability?

And I assume that most men, and I can only speak for men who witness or go through becoming a father, like the moment The moment my first child came into this world, everything changed for me.

It was a wonderful and scary experience at the same time.

And whoever has kids understands this.

Even leaving the hospital the day after she was born, in my head, I'm like, why are they letting us leave? Why are they giving us this child? We don't know what to do.

And it was the most frightening experience ever.

But once that happens, at least for me, you start to think about the things in your childhood that really became core memories, whether good or bad.

specifically younger adults, right? So a lot of people in their 20s, they feel overwhelmed trying to figure life out while silently battling mental health struggles, right? So what advice would you give to them?