Mm-hmm.

I think so becau- I think so, uh, because, uh, we published some days ago an, uh, study about how, uh, social media, um, Russian social media, uh, contributed to amplify the problem, you know, uh, to, uh, to amplify the problem of the immigration in Spain.

Because in this specific case, I don't know when happened in Belarus, no, Belarus, Poland, in the border, no, uh, some, some, uh, some years ago, um, I don't know if it was the case or not, but- What, uh, this situation created in Spain, it's a huge debate about immigration, a huge division about immigration.

And I'm pretty sure about that, um, what in fact Russian, uh, intelligence services, government, I don't know, huh, but Russian social or orchestrated social media, uh, operations, uh, wants to achieve is, is the division, is the division of the democratic societies.

Mm-hmm.

Is this division about, in this case, immigration.

In other cases could be another topics, another, uh, another aspects, no? In this case, for me, uh, right now more than ever in Spain, the most important topic right now is, in the public debate, is immigration.

So paradoxically, I'm asking- Whether you, you see either a potential or maybe actual, um, positions of, of, of the government or, um, experts, uh, close to the government building up a proposal of what we can do together, um, between the two countries far apart geographically within Europe, but with, um, common stakes in the European Union and NATO, and essentially facing a similar crisis.