the coming anniversary of 9 11 as best you can uh what is that um you know day to you how does that day go to you all these

years later uh it's a pinnacle event for me um i guess the comparison that i've used and it's it's not the same thing as pearl harbor but for us as americans of our generation it was our pearl harbor didn't see it coming sucker punched in the face unexpectedly.

The fear, the anger, the grief that followed 25 years later, I think part of what is missed is the overwhelming grief that lingered in and around the city and around the Pentagon for weeks and months as we watched all those funerals.

Every day, front page of the newspaper was somebody else's funeral.

the missing people that their loved ones searched for forever.

And you were part of Search and Rescue for a while.

Yes, down at Ground Zero.

my

Yes.

For some football players and some other alumni.

Got together with him.

I know his business has taken him around the country.

Somehow we wound up talking about New York City and told him I had lived there for many years and worked there for many years.

Conversation turns to 9-11 and eventually turns into how did you wind up in the Marine Corps? So the story I told him was after a couple of unsuccessful semesters at LSU.

Sure.

Yeah.

Give us your five.

Stephen King, Jane Austin, Michael Crichton, frederick nichey i'll tell you why i've been cleaning out my garage and i came across my old copy of thus big zarathustra so he's been on my mind lately and i couldn't shake him

Proud of you.

I just want to say, especially after someone mentioning Douglas Adams, I am ashamed to have not picked 42.

I'm an idiot.

69.

10 because it's the first two-digit number.

99 because it's the last.

Your thoughts about all this?

It has been a journey that a lot of people have been on to get to the dark and unfortunate realization that when it comes to the GOP establishment, they actually hold conservative voters in lower regard than the left.

John Thune, John Cornyn, the GOP establishment snakes absolutely hate Paxton.

They can't believe he won.

Many of them still can't believe that Trump And we in Texas, we are to be punished.

We are to be taught a lesson.

The Jesse Kelly quote on Megyn Kelly was absolutely artful in its description of exactly where we are, a GOP establishment that would love to see Tallarico win so that they could say, huh, told you so.

And he won't raise money because your donors have been told, I believe, by John Cornyn, don't give him money.

It's going to be harder to try to narrow down.

Yeah.

So it gets the unknowns first.

So Blake, just start asking.

There's Dwight, Star Wars characters, Sesame Street characters, Marvel characters, Batman, Joker, Doctor Octopus.

Winnie the Pooh is probably one of them.

Freddie Mercury, start asking away, buddy.

but what

Uh, is what they are doing enough?

enough?Yeah, it's a good question.

Uh, and it's interesting that the government itself is getting a bit of a backlash from some of its own politicians.

Uh, in particular, the government's legislation doesn't prohibit inducements, and we've seen some recent media about how, uh, prominent, um, uh, gamblers, particularly sports people, are being offered inducements that aren't just financial but also involve drugs and escorts.

So this is a very seedy part of the industry.

Uh, so the government's legisla-slation currently doesn't address that issue, although it's being, uh, encouraged to do so by some of its own politicians.

Uh, it would be a dent to tax revenues, wouldn't it, if the government did take a real control over the gambling advertising industry?

Oh, absolutely.

Mark Davis dropped by our studios late last year along with Sakamoto, and we spoke about finding a better way to teach democracy in action.

I think with the way we originally approached it was, do we need to rethink how we teach civics to our high school and even younger students? Because, of course, the world is such that often if you can involve students in experiential activities, types of interchanges, whether it's through civic engagement or the interactions with mentors or people that are public policy people, is that a better way to understand the way our democracy works as opposed to the way it's conventionally taught with facts and figures and three branches of government, which is, of course, the way that we all learned civics.

And we became convinced as we looked into this that this was being handled a little bit on the college level, but very little in terms of curriculum development in the lower grades.

And that's what Punahou became interested in, and they were able to contract with Pam Sakamoto and David Ball, who have become the creative movement behind the program.

And then that's the way it started.

It's about involving students in the processes of democracy, as opposed to just listening to lectures about what democracy is.

What was that like for you?

It's one of the things that has really encouraged me about the way this program has progressed was that we have made these alliances with other institutions, like the law school, for example.

yeah

yeah yeah yeah which i mean you know is a sign of a great podcast you don't want it to be the same thing all of the time so uh yeah i mean um i've i've really really liked your episodes and i was like i have to talk a bunch so we can pad it so when i only get four questions right it's It's still a long episode.

People don't see a three minute run time and go, you know, I feel like I'm at a disadvantage as far as your trivia, as far as this is concerned, because I spend so much time writing because I do once a month trivia at this place where it's like themed trivia.

And then I do, you know, my 18 questions for nice guys.

And I usually write them like the day of.

And so I have written a bunch of questions, but they're just from my own narrow mindset.

But even listening to your podcast and listening to Up to Par, it reminds me how vast trivia knowledge is.

Excellent, excellent.

Starting at the top of my screen, Mark, tell us a little bit about yourself.

I'm Mark.

I live in Florida.

I kind of semi-co-host and produce Up to Par with Blake, also on the Deus today.

I've been running quizzes for my particular location where I am now for 11 years, but I've run a number of other games before that.

Just general kind of nerd, music lover, and very excited to be here today.

back in the day.

While Irene is waiting to submit, I just want to say I've gone off on this rant before on some podcast I do.

Yep

... things that it can be.

Sometimes it's small intestine bacterial overgrowth or gallbladder issues or bile acids.

Anyway, I won't go on too long, but the real key for diet and IBS is to do that detective work of figuring out what kind of IBS patient is in front of you, and then figuring out how much diet can help.

Ulcerative colitis and Crohn's, however, these are pretty well-characterized phenomenon, uh, phenomena.

And, uh, IBS, one out of every 10 or 20 people in the country has IBS.

For ulcerative colitis and Crohn's, it's like one out of every 200 people has one of those two conditions.

It passes through you without causing damage, but it somehow communicates, its presence communicates something to the immune system to put the brakes on, uh, an inflammatory process in the body.

What's that?

Yeah.

Big thanks to you, Brewer, for putting this together and Skillet Brew Trivia and the PTE Network.

Listen to Up to Par.

It comes out every Tuesday.

I also do a podcast about lyrics called Lyrics to Go that comes out every Monday.

Um, if you're into either of those things, trivia or trivia S games or lyrics and making fun of bad lyrics and looking into lyrics that you, uh, may have not realized were more fucked up than you thought.

Shout it out.

This is your first attempt to get into the championship game.

My first attempt, and I somehow got it.

And I'm overjoyed.

It's good.

Thank you for putting this together and for having an awesome and fun podcast.

that's trivia related.

Uh, I recently started doing, uh, more stuff.

I thought you were talking about the movie Friday.

No, I know

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in any, no matter what, there's an advantage and disadvantage to, to doing it at the, the beginning of the day, advantage and disadvantage.

I mean, kids are out playing, too.

I, uh, silly me, don't you remember being out playing at 6:00, 6:15? Let's have it dark then.

Uh, so no.

Uh, just no, no, no, no, no.

I'm gonna be the, the placeholder." Um, and, uh, and guess what? She's gonna be there, and she's gonna do a great job, I think.

Why start now?

Sometimes I literally think you're just making shit up.

You're just like, I just, oh, um, oh, I just made a new, a new round.

Um, hold on.

Um, Irene, you have to play, um, because, um, yeah, Irene's got to play and it's called, uh, come together.

Yeah.

I'll

My boner is bulging and no one can tell me why.

If you'd like to see what some investors call the 29% account, Go now to account29.com. That's account, the numbers, 29.com. Again, account29.com. You're being obtuse.

No, it is, of course, turkey.

But in the standings, and I noticed this in the standings, list all the countries, T-U-R-K-I-Y-E, Turkiye, to be more congruent with the way they, if you ever go to Turkey for that stupid hair transplant or whatever you go there for, and you say, hey, what country am I in? They'll go, hey, Mike, it's Turkiye.

And so all the broadcasters are now saying Turkiye, which put me down.

Do we refer to Germany as Deutschland, Japan as Nippon? That's what you meant when you said, I didn't even know there was any dispute about it.

Turkey is Turkey.

And I thought you were invoking Turkey in harmony with and carrying forward the premise that I laid down about 30 minutes ago.

Is it Kiev or Kiev?

We

had something come up, so we couldn't go.

So we get your review first, and mine will be on Monday.

And you've told me I'm going.

First of all, let me tell everybody what Mike has done.

He has been trickling out to me reviews from other people who say the movie is horrible.

I have then sent to him the Metacritic compendium of reviews.

I

Underneath it is oil and gas, and in Louisiana, whoever owns the surface owns what's underneath.

If I'm in Texas, I may own a million acres, and I may not own anything underneath, [lips smack] and the person who's, owns those minerals has a right to come on and access them without asking my permission.

But in Louisiana, you know, the ownership of oil, gas, or whatever is underground is controlled by who owns the surface.

[gentle music] And why would a fisherman out in a boat challenge ownership?

'Cause under Louisiana law, all navigable waters, with a handful of exceptions, belong to the state, and the bottoms of those waterways belong to the state, and if they own the water bottoms, they own the minerals.

Yeah

So, you know, I've fired up schools.

I've, I've seen it time and time and time again with largemouth, that you literally ...

You know, everybody talks about you fire the school up and get them up and get them rocking and rolling, but as I said, uh, is it, is it the end all, be all every time? No.

The way, the reason that I started with them is because I used to buy so much of it.

I saw them at ICAST.

I walked up to their booth, and, uh, Steve Lynch is their, one of their main guys, and I said, uh, I said, "Man," I said, "I'm a huge fan of your stuff.

Sure.

Underneath it is oil and gas, and in Louisiana, whoever owns the surface owns what's underneath.

If I'm in Texas, I may own a million acres, and I may not own anything underneath.

[smacks lips] And the person who's, owns those minerals has a right to come on and access them without asking my permission.

But in Louisiana, you know, the ownership of oil, gas, or whatever is underground is controlled by who owns the surface.

So a lot of what is going on here is about who owns and controls minerals.

And by the way, those tickets, Marc Davis from Tulane Law says the reason local enforcement gives them in the first place is because in these rural, coastal areas, oil and gas companies are often the biggest taxpayers.

If you have a, you know, landowner, an oil company who's paying taxes that p- pay for the roads, hospitals, and schools, then maybe when they call the parish, you know, sheriff to say, "There's a trespasser," well, the parish might well say, "Of course, you're the taxpayer.

Why don't we show up and tell that trespasser to leave?"