Let me ask you about that, Mark, because when we, I think, last saw each other, we had just, this was in September, I think, of 2018, when we were at the Devil's Tower UFO rendezvous, and it was just that previous meeting january december of 2017 when the atip videos came out and so and so have you looked into that at all and and have you drawn any conclusions about the nature of these objects at least in terms of observing them and any conclusions you've drawn about maybe the propulsion technology or what they might be

right you know a very good question though richard and i'll tell you um I've looked at all the videos.

In fact, I was asked to examine all the videos and I wrote a white paper for MUFON on them.

What was released didn't have anything on it that was heartbreaking and heart pounding.

I mean, it wasn't anything that got you to stay up at night.

The video that was released didn't have anything that was exciting enough to be definitively labeled out of this world.

In fact, I was able to detect that some of what we saw were due to the mechanics of the system taking the imagery.

We have genes in our DNA that are so highly conserved that we share them with plants.

you can see the grid from the

pixels.

The pixels, exactly.

And that's the thing.

What people have to realize is it takes many pixels to make an image.

Right.

Many, many pixels to make an image.

but the apple pro camera is optimized for aesthetic clarity not for scientific accuracy when filming distant small bright objects it actively manufactures structure color and edges that do not really exist in reality and i have the data to show that i've done tests to test

coming our way a cover story or actual exercise to check for asteroids coming in any possible secret technology which is why it remains classified or that the cia denies it what what's your guys thoughts on the um worldwide defense system exercise focused on atlas

I was aware of this from the very beginning and I was all for it because this is the third object that entered our solar system from interstellar space.

Why is that meaningful? It's meaningful because they're moving much faster than solar system based objects of the same kind.

So we have to have some type of way to defend against them.

What that means is we have to really get to them before they reach a critical trajectory path where they will intersect the earth no matter what we do.

OK, so that means we have to see them earlier.

That means we have to have more telescopes.

in Armageddon, was it? Armageddon.

Oh, I've been waiting for him.

Yeah.

And then the doctor gets on the phone.

Hi, Mr. D'Antonio.

Listen, I'm sure it's benign.

Oh, so you didn't get the results yet from pathology.

Sort of.

For anyone who doesn't know, can you talk about what the Hudson Valley flap was?

Waiting for the vampire teeth, you know?

At all.

It's good.

We like doing it this way.

Uh, no.

So, uh, parell- parallax is very simple, okay? All you have to do to understand what parallax is, parallax is the apparent motion of an object in the foreground against a much more distant background.

How do you show that? You extend your hand at arm's length, okay, and you use your left and right eye.

Has there been anything in the, in any of the releases yet that Mark would consider conclusive or significant as far as UFOs go?

So you

have to push it uphill by pushing these rods down and you're actually going to add energy to the system, okay, to get it to stop.

Fusion is the opposite.

Fusion is a reaction teetering on the brink of literally just shutting down.

So as long as you can hold it in a balanced condition, then fusion will continue happily.

But stop providing the fuel, stop providing the containment, and it falls off the mountain and it doesn't melt down.

It just shuts off.

He's saying, have you seen anything strange through your telescope, Mark?

Are you triangulating objects like Avi's doing with the Galileo Project?

Interesting you, you mention that, 'cause, um, well, the other observatory in Arizona is in Benson, Arizona, which is 220 miles away.

So if we image the same object from both telescopes, we could indeed do that.

Okay? As long as we know the exact look angles and the exact position and the altitude of the telescopes, we can do the calculation.

We haven't, but we can.

And that was precisely why I wanted to have them separated like that.

Because if you see something in the sky, in fact, you can, you know ...

Right.

Toyota, let's go places.

Well, first of all, how much of the universe do we understand? You mentioned it earlier.

You said something, okay? We actually know 4%.

It's 4.

4%.

Wow.

Not 27, not 32, 4.

Oh, compression.