Can you tell us a bit about that, for those few people who may not have heard of what you saw?

No, that's obviously a very interesting trip, and I think, uh, also the way Once Upon Borneo, because I traveled with Chavez, the way they approached the project was really good.

Um, but to come back to that observation, um, let me go a little bit backwards towards the beginning of the year.

You know, when you start a big year like this, you look at all the wildcat species, and you're, you're making, in your, in your mind and in your spreadsheets, uh, probability analysis per cat.

And there was one wildcat species, you know, which I just made a big cross.

Uh, it was the only wildcat species which I crossed out.

You know, it's impossible to see, and it's the Borneo bay cat.

Where, where do you go from here?