We mightn't think it as adults, but they actually do like routine.

They do.

And I think, you know, sometimes it can be easier, you know, like say they're really tired and they're like, oh, I just want to eat in front of the TV or just want to.

And it's not to say that my kids don't do that.

And if I feel like they're really tired in a particular moment and it doesn't have to be like every meal of the day that you're sitting around and all of that kind of stuff.

But it's just they need boundaries, you know, like they will try everything out to kind of.

you know, to do their own thing.

When you talk to children, Dr. Coyne, in your own practice about feeling seen and feeling understood, what do they say to you?

you know, like produce more, produce more.

And even in terms of this article, this article is talking about laziness as a superpower so that we can be more productive.

It's almost like being productive has become the standard by which we allow ourselves to rest, which is crazy because we're human beings, not human doings.

And actually, it has such massive benefits.

It's something we need to do.

But it's really difficult to do that.

And we're not talking about being lazy and kind of like losing our sense of drive, losing our sense of doing things and achieving things.

But then when I talk about, you know, nearly regimenting or scheduling the breaks, I wonder, is that kind of counterintuitive? And will that also add to people's stresses? You know, how do we strike the balance there?

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Oh, 100 percent.

You're totally right.

I mean, we live in a society that's constantly asking us to, you know, to move, to kind of to be faster, achieve more, optimize, produce.

It's all about, you know, like produce more, produce more.

And even in terms of this article, this article is talking about laziness as a superpower so that we can be more productive.

It's almost like being productive has become the standard by which we allow ourselves to rest and which is crazy because we're human beings, not human doings.

But then when I talk about, you know, nearly regimenting or scheduling the breaks, I wonder, is that kind of counterintuitive? And will that also add to people's stresses? You know, how do we strike the balance there?

We're so terribly hard on ourselves, Mally, aren't we?

Yeah, absolutely.

And I think it's a common human experience.

And that's why Riona and Grace have had so much positive feedback from what they have shared so honestly.

And I commend them for doing that.

body image is more than just how we think about our bodies it's kind of our mental representation of our bodies and it may or may not reflect reality and it's not just about our appearance it's connected to how safe accepted and good enough we feel within ourselves because both both of them mentioned about this negative voice that we have inside our heads And that comes from lots of different things.

We have all the external pressures of, you know, living in a culture where, you know, we're constantly told our bodies are projects that need improving and that summer is all about the beach body, the summer body, bikini.

So let's start with, I suppose, maybe the line between what would you consider just maybe normal childhood upset versus using that phrase separation anxiety?

Yeah, I mean, I guess just to say initially, Lottie, that separation anxiety is very normal.

It doesn't mean there's something wrong with your child that they experience anxiety when separated from you because it shows that they're attached to you.

That's what you want.

You want, you know, if you weren't...

If that attachment wasn't there with their parent or primary caregiver, they wouldn't get upset when separated from you.

So it is quite a normal thing for every child to experience at some point in their childhoods.

What can they do to build a bit of confidence and a little bit of independence before school starts?

Can you do that briefly, the different types of therapy?

Yeah, I can.

I suppose a counsellor is the counselling and psychotherapy are often used interchangeably.

But there, you know, if a counsellor has maybe and again, you know, I'm sure people might be writing in saying or speaking in saying it's not exactly that, but I'm a clinical psychologist.

So I kind of know my world very well.

But counselling and psychotherapy are can be used interchangeably, but cancer is often helpful for life challenges and emotional support.

They might have maybe between, you know, maybe two years or some, you know, they're trained in a particular type of issue and it's kind of, it's support work.

It's funny, though, Mally, over the years, I've heard people say anecdotally, we could all do with a little bit of therapy.