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Mallory Dwinal-Palish

Mallory Dwinal-Palish

Founder of Reach University and President of Craft Education System (acquired by Western Governors University), pioneer of apprenticeship-based college degrees.

Sep 29, 2026

26:03
It can be much simpler than that.
26:05
And again, I think it comes back to kind of the same thing we were talking about with programmatic accreditors.
26:09
What is the logic and the North Star of having a journey worker that is working closely with someone? It is to make sure that that person is not just out in the wilderness divining things on their own and that they're actually learning from someone who's qualified to show them the way and to light the path.
26:25
Well, okay, a paraprofessional is a paraprofessional in someone's classroom.
26:30
Why is that person not their journey worker, right? And then to your point of, yeah, sure, maybe in a few years they rotate and are doing student teaching at a different grade level.
26:39
Okay, so assign them a new journey worker, right? Now the question then is, oh, well, we can't afford to pay those folks more.
26:45
Well, first of all, most schools I know have a budget for instructional leadership in which you do get paid more for taking on that role.

13 MINS LATER

39:32
What do you think the landscape is going to look like two years from now? What are we going to be talking about having achieved and what may still not be achieved?

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