Can you talk a little bit of the gray infrastructure versus the green infrastructure? Because again, you know, the lay person doesn't really think about either one of these things, but I think that they're important for us just living in the world to understand the difference.

Yeah.

And I do, I want to just preface this with, A very, you know, it was very intentional that our organization and movement was named Depave.

It was a word that was made up at the time.

Yeah.

And it's a word that's now spread around the world and become ubiquitous.

We think it started here in Portland with this great as a verb and a noun.

But talk about some of the health outcomes and some of the maybe the projects you've been doing.