For those listeners who don't yet know your story, would you be willing to share just a little bit about your daughter and what eventually led to this book?

Sure.

So similar to Emily, I'm a licensed marriage and family therapist.

Um, my specialty is also in perinatal mental health.

So I was doing this work before my daughter Sachi was born.

I would say at that time I was working with a lot of clients who had navigated birth trauma.

That's actually kind of how I found Emily.

Mahalia, for you, as you were going through it, what kind of responses felt supportive after your daughter's death, and which ones, um, were unintentionally making the experience so much harder for you?