Yeah

... on Twitter was how Justin tweeted about me and discovered me.

So it's just been, it's been a really big constant in my life, and I think just the more time that goes on, I care less about it now in the sense of, like, I can step away.

I can, like, not read hate.

I think I'm at peace with who I am, and I'm like, "If you don't like me, that's fine." But I don't know.

I think especially on tour, it probably has a lot to do with, like, I'm putting so much work and effort into this that I want everything to convey the right message.

I also have, that's, like, a really big thing of mine where I'm like, I hope that everything I do conveys the right message.

Okay, yeah, yeah

That's so insane.

I've dreamed, that's been my dream my whole life.

Like, if you watch any YouTube video or, like, old interview from 12-year-old me, they'd be like, "What's your biggest dream?" And I'd be like, "Playing Madison Square Garden." So it's like I'm achieving things that I've dreamed of, and I'm gonna focus on, like, the things I haven't achieved.

That sets yourself up for such an unhealthy relationship to...

I feel like, dude, did you see that video of Eileen Gu talking about when she won, I'm pretty sure she had won the Olympic silver.

She had won, like, two Olympic silvers or something, and they were like, "Do you view this as two Olympic silvers, one, or-"... to Olympic gold lost.

Like, he asked her something.

Are you, is it hard to be in love in the public eye?

Yeah.

But I can't make any promises, because I just don't know.

And I think that for me it was important that I just started somewhere, and I think that, like, I could always add shows, and I can always build.

But something that I've learned about myself is, like, I don't really do well when I have six months in the future clearly planned out, and I'm like, "Yeah, I'll be in Australia in seven months from when my tour starts." Like, that feels always a bit intense for me.

Mm.

And I was like, "Yeah, it's somewhere in my room." Like, I, I have all my stuff stored, so whatever.

I was like, "Yeah, I have it." And she was like, "I need you to look in it, because I just remembered that 26 years ago, for my push present when I gave birth to you, your father got me a locket, a diamond locket, that said Madison inside of it, and has your birthday on it." And I was like, "There's no way.

That's insane." And also, how would I not have known that all this time?

And it was so cool to me

and, like, very...

This was amazing, too.

I loved it.

And so I was really...

Thank you.

But I was really inspired by that.

What are you doing?

And what was the idea behind it when you first started to think about it being Lock It, the album?

Honestly, it was just a word.

It sounds stupid, but I really just liked that word.

And I thought it just kind of embodied...

It felt feminine.

It felt vintage.

It felt like something that obviously is metaphorical.

your, what runs through you? Like, what do you feel?

And what was the idea behind it when you first started to think about it being Lock It, the album?

Honestly, it was just a word.

It sounds stupid, but I really just liked that word.

And I thought it just kind of embodied...

It felt feminine.

It felt vintage.

It felt like something that obviously is metaphorical.

What runs through you? Like, what do you feel?

And how did you find your voice?

Yeah, I think it doesn't happen overnight.

I think I'm still learning how to do that.

I'm, you know, 26 turning 27.

Now I'm still super young.

And I think that I'm just like, navigating not only this industry, but also just like my personal life and how I conduct myself day to day.

And I think that I've done a lot of therapy and I think setting boundaries have been really huge for me and being like it's okay to say no to certain things and preserve my energy and myself and I definitely to anyone listening encourage you to do the same and having a work life personal life balance is extremely important in any industry that you're in and um yeah i don't know i think it definitely didn't happen overnight though so i can't say it was just one moment that i was like oh here we go now i feel empowered and like i can do this i still have nights where i break down and cry and don't think i can so it's not just like a completely one day it shifts but i think that it's important to stay true to yourself and look out for yourself and advocate for yourself whenever you can and i know sometimes it might be hard and i think that um especially as women we're kind of told to not really make waves and stuff but i encourage you to and i think that um it's nothing feels better than looking out for yourself and i always say it might be cheesy but like you should treat yourself as if you're your own best friend and i know the way that i look out for my best friend and the way that i would defend her and stand up for her you should do that for yourself and uh it feels really good there you go

you're a fan of your album.

And how did you find your voice?

Yeah, I think it doesn't happen overnight.

I think I'm still learning how to do that.

I'm 26 turning 27.

Now I'm still super young.

And I think that I'm just like navigating not only this industry, but also just like my personal life and how I conduct myself day to day.

And I think that I've done a lot of therapy and I think setting boundaries have been really huge for me and being like it's okay to say no to certain things and preserve my energy and myself and I definitely to anyone listening encourage you to do the same and having a work life personal life balance is extremely important in any industry that you're in and um yeah i don't know i think it definitely didn't happen overnight though so i can't say it was just one moment that i was like oh here we go now i feel empowered and like i can do this i still have nights where i break down and cry and don't think i can so it's not just like a completely one day it shifts but i think that it's important to stay true to yourself and look out for yourself and advocate for yourself whenever you can and i know sometimes it might be hard and i think that um especially as women we're kind of told to not really make waves and stuff but i encourage you to and i think that um it's nothing feels better than looking out for yourself and i always say it might be cheesy but like you should treat yourself as if you're your own best friend and i know the way that i look out for my best friend and the way that i would defend her and stand up for her you should do that for yourself and uh it feels really good there you go

a fan of your album.

And how did you find your voice?

Yeah, I think it doesn't happen overnight.

I think I'm still learning how to do that.

I'm, you know, 26, turning 27.

Now I'm still super young.

And I think that I'm just like navigating not only this industry, but also just like my personal life and how I conduct myself day to day.

And I think that I've done a lot of therapy and I think setting boundaries have been really huge for me and being like it's okay to say no to certain things and preserve my energy and myself and I definitely to anyone listening encourage you to do the same and having a work life personal life balance is extremely important in any industry that you're in and um yeah i don't know i think it definitely didn't happen overnight though so i can't say it was just one moment that i was like oh here we go now i feel empowered and like i can do this i still have nights where i break down and cry and don't think i can so it's not just like a completely one day it shifts but i think that it's important to stay true to yourself and look out for yourself and advocate for yourself whenever you can and i know sometimes it might be hard and i think that especially as women we're kind of told to not really make waves and stuff but I encourage you to and I think that it's nothing feels better than looking out for yourself and I always say it might be cheesy but like you should treat yourself as if you're your own best friend and I know the way that I look out for my best friend and the way that I would defend her and stand up for her you should do that for yourself and it feels really good there you go

a fan of your album?

Mm-hmm.

... you know, the multiples, but...

So of course as a young girl...There was a boy that I liked from back home, and when I was sort of already, like, in LA a bit, going back and forth, I started sending videos of myself to him, as I think a lot of people do, and I also won't, like, ever convince myself that a lot of people don't do that, because I've seen tweets of people being like, "Maybe you shouldn't have been dumb enough to send that to this person," and, "Why would you do that?" And I'm like, "Because I was a young girl with a, also an app called Snapchat that literally deletes the video after you send it.

What could, what, what's the harm in that?" I remember hearing of this thing called Snap Save, and I was like, "What the fuck is that?" And someone told me it was an app that you can download that basically whenever you open a Snapchat, it saves to your camera roll automatically.

And I was like, "That can't be real," because you know how you get a notification when someone screen records or takes a screenshot? I was like, "That something has to notify you." Yeah.

So I found out that existed, but I just didn't think that the person I was sending this stuff to would remotely ever think to do something like that, because this was someone I'd known my whole life.

So I was wrong, obviously.

Mm-hmm.