I did want to ask Madge, how do you feel about the new term queer? Are you queer?

Yeah, you see, I've used that, but I am very careful about it because...

Again, I have a lot of truck with things.

So we've established that I don't like rainbows.

We've established that I'm homophobic against marriage, same-sex marriage.

And then the other thing that I have truck with as well is the fact that anything that I like in a small way, when it becomes mainstream...

In a big way, I start to worry about it.

And I think maybe when people get non-binary people, these young non-binary people, when they get to be about 40, they're suddenly going to go, oh, fuck, I can't keep up with this anymore.