I wasn't trying to do that, but I really did tune a sensibility that when I moved back down into, to Denver, I realized, "Oh, this is what they're talking about." And, and I'm, I'm really interested at this point in time in thinking more about how to recover that and, um, I, I wanna talk more about that, but I, I-- before we get there, I'd, I'd love to hear a little bit about your journey into the world of therapeutic plants.

Absolutely.

It's funny that you say COVID was sort of the impetus for your own exploration here because that was sort of the same for me.

I grew up in Texas, and so gardening was sort of hand in hand with the environment.

If you put seeds in the ground, they're gonna grow because it's humid and warm.

And so we grew tomatoes growing up, but then I went to grad school here in Denver, and I ended up with a target graduation date of 2020.

So at spring break, I went home, and then they said, "Don't come back.

Here's kinda your checkpoints or feedback." I mean, you know, give me a little free advice here as, as a, you know, how do I make my life better through gardening?