What is your opinion here? Like, why should we be investing our time and, and our efforts into making sure our children are somehow in the theater world?

It's so important, um, to be both a, an audience member and, and/or a participant because audiences in live theater are part of the production.

Your show flows completely differently if you don't have an audience, if you only have, like, one or two people, if you...

I do shows that tour schools and sometimes if you're a show with a special ed- special education population and kids are non-verbal, that's gonna be a different show than a show where kids are verbal, a show with younger kids, a show with older kids.

It, um, it really shares with kids that they are important, and as an audience, we'll go into them as, as theater makers.

But again, the-- And [chuckles] I was gonna say that they can control stuff.

In some ways, that's kind of like, "Boo," when kids are know on purpose that they're being less than kind and that makes a difference, too.

Mm-hmm