to that,

if we can get to that.

But, you know, the first picture that I have posted on the photo page on the phoenixlights.net website, Phoenix Lights Network, is a topography, the view from our balcony.

And you can see... that there are two mountain ranges in the distance.

One is South Mountain to the left, and the other a bit further, a few miles, is called the Estrella Mountain Range.

Now, interestingly, I was invited to present my substance abuse prevention education program to the Gila Bend Indian Reservation School, which is one school on the reservation, very sacred grounds, in the basin in between, that's where it's located, in between where South Mountain and the Estrellas intersect.

And you can see in the picture where they intersect.

Distance, I mean, there

Take me to the 13th of March 1997.

About 8:30 that evening, I saw lights pop up, three lights far north.

And about 20 to 10:00, suddenly I see six lights pop on at a distance.

I run out there with my video camera and as I'm fumbling to get it focused, the six lights had turned to three, massive, three endpoints of a V or triangle.

What were they saying they saw?

It was very silent.

We have pilots and, and professionals that were right underneath these, what they called canisters of spinning energy, that they would look up and, and think that it was gonna drop d- down on them.

To date, the Phoenix lights have never been reenacted or explained.

Yeah

... where people can go that saw something similar.

You can go to the Phoenix Lights Network website on the landing page.

If you saw something similar to the Phoenix Lights, or if you saw it on March 13, 1997, please join us and please contact me.

I'd love to hear your story.

You can contact me through Phoenix Lights Network website.

Um, the...

It was brutal.