Now, what do you recommend women do then for the listeners? Is there a plan that we can put into place or just more self exams? Or I mean, if we have breast cancer prominent in our families, give us the lowdown.

So I don't even like the word, I don't even care for cancer.

I learned about this 35 years ago.

35 years ago, I learned, I went to a cancer conference.

Every half hour to 45 minutes, PhD and MD, a solid researcher from around the world, researchers from around the world were talking about this.

And I had no idea about the menu of options for self-care and natural care.

And here I am, very educated, experienced, and I knew nothing.

Can you talk about that?